2009-05-17 5月の東京例会,ぶじに終了。
_ 昨日(5月16日),「ISC・21」5月東京例会が無事に終わりほっと一息です。メイン・テーマは『ブラジルのホモ・ルーデンス』の合評会でした。
著者の今福龍太さんを囲んで,みんなでディスカッションを楽しみました。まずは,井上邦子,瀧元誠樹,三井悦子の3人から,それぞれの立場からのコメントをしてもらい,それを受けて今福さんがお話をされるという展開ではじまりました。
トップ・バッターの井上邦子さんの気合いの入ってコメントで一気に会場の雰囲気が高揚し,素晴らしいスタートを切ってくれました。モンゴルの伝統スポーツの研究をフィールドにする井上さんらしい発想から,『ブラジルのホモ・ルーデンス』をどのように受け止めたのかを論じてくれました。広くスポーツの場に「生身の生命体」を取り戻すことの重要さをひしひしと感じたと,井上節が全開でした。
瀧元君からは,やはり,武術をする身体の観点から,いくつかの問題提起がなされ,これまた興味ぶかい視点の提示でした。加えて,今福さんがサッカー選手ではだれが好きなのかというマニアックな話をあまりされたことがないので,そのあたりのお話が聞きたい,と。これには,早速,今福さんが「えっ,そうでしたっけ?」と反応。「自分としてはずいぶんと語ってきたつもりですが・・・」と苦笑い。
最後の三井さんからは,ドイツ医療体操史研究からみえてくる近代の「姿勢矯正」のはじまり,批評精神の欠落したスポーツ史研究,資料実証主義にこだわる歴史学,などのわれわれにとっての本質的な問題が提起されました。もちろん,三井さんの最近のテーマである竹内敏晴さんのいう「じか」の問題との関連性も最後に加えてくれました。とりわけ,今福さんの常用される「消息」という用語に注目し,そのもともとの意味は「陰を消し,気を入れること」にあることを知り,このことばの意味内容の深さに驚いた,という指摘が印象に残りました。今福さんも,あとで,「ぼくも,そんな意味があるとは知りませんでした。いいことを教えてもらいました」とコメント。
この3人の発言で,ほぼ,30分だったのですが,「とても30分とは思えないほど内容のある,密度の濃いコメントをしてくださり,ありがとうございました」と今福さんをして言わしめたほどのものでした。これで,とても気をよくしてくださったのか,一人ひとりのコメントに丁寧に応答されるかたちで話を展開されました。この具体的な内容については,いつか,活字にして読めるようにしたいと考えていますので,楽しみにしてください。
こうして,今福さんが約1時間,お話をしてくださり,約10分ほど休憩。その間に,月曜社の神林さんが『ブラジルのホモ・ルーデンス』の販売をし,今福さんがサインをしてくださることに。わたしも2冊目を購入して,サインをしてもらいました。一冊目がラインや書き込みで真っ黒になってしまったので2冊目を購入しました,と今福さんにお話をしたら「重要な本はぼくも2冊買うことにしています」と仰ってくださり,ああ,やっぱりそうなんだ,と妙に安心しました。
休憩のあと,全体ディスカッション。ここからフロアからの質問や問題提起などがはじまり,一段といい雰囲気で時間が流れるようになりました。今福さんと三井さんとの短いことばのやりとりもとても刺激的でした。フロアの質問に井上さんが反応したりして,和気あいあいにして緊張感のあるやりとりが展開。これまでにはみられなかった新展開でした。
こういう雰囲気のなかで,わたしも若干ながら,これまで考えてきたことがらを問題提起としてお話をさせてもらいました。今福さんも,丁寧にことばを選びながら,しかし,深い思考の裏づけのあるお話をしてくださいました。わたしにとっては至福の時が流れていました。
こうして,あっという間に3時間以上が経過。打ち切るのはもったいない感じでしたが,時間がきていますので,ここで終わり。時計をみたら18時30分をすぎていました。
このあと,近くのお店で懇親会。こちらは河本先生が準備してくださいました。その名も「野菜畑」。飲み物は自由。とてもヘルシーな料理が並び,わたしにとってはありがたいお店でした。ここでの2時間もあっという間。みなさん,それぞれに懇親を深めてくださったようで,みんな笑顔。名残惜しくも,解散。
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